Dateline of Emails and Letters to and from Perth and Kinross Social Work Dept

Lovely LilyBelow you will find a timeline of letters and emails primarily to Perth and Kinross Head of Social Work Department (at that time) Alison Irvine and some of the staff she had working for her then.

We were constantly fobbed off with excuses and it’s a ‘private matter’ or it’s ‘nothing to bother Social Workers with’, I personally asked Alison Irvine and her Department Manager Joyce Thewlis ‘do I have to find one of my grandchildren or all of my grandchildren dead before you will do something’, the response we received was a shocking YES.

So now I know that it takes a dead child before Social Workers like those herein will do anything to protect children, no wonder so many social workers fail children if this is how they are led.

I intend to keep publishing emails and letters that I have received from both the Social Work Department and the Education Department at Perth and Kinross Council.

On the 22nd of November 2013 after almost a year without contact ,my daughter received 42 phone calls from an unknown number and a voice message from her husband Jay McKay telling her it was urgent that he speak to her about our other granddaughter Lily. The next call that came through from him told her that at 7pm that night he would be dropping 6 year old Lily off at The Silverburn Shopping Centre I Glasgow. It was a bitterly cold night and true to his word straight out of the blue he took Lily to her mother handed her over without a word to either and walked away.

Lily not understanding exactly what was going on went away happily with her mother. By the time she had gotten Lily back to her home, she discovered just how badly and how poorly Lily had been treated.

Lily was dressed in only a T shirt and some leggings, she was wearing underwear which had not been changed for days and was soiled, her shoes had holes in the soles and she was infested with head lice.

The day after I drove down with Lily’s sister to visit her. We were all so happy to see her regardless of how she had been given over, however as the day progressed I grew more and more angry by what Lily was telling us. I emailed Alison Irvine’s office to see if some explanation for the sudden hand over of Lily was to be forthcoming.

As far as she was concerned she really wasn’t all that bothered and the email we received back will show that she was aware of it but did not think it strange that this should happen, nor was she concerned in any way about the condition’s my daughter had received Lily back in.

I bagged up all of the clothes and shoes, it amounted to no more than a pitiful bundle of rags and kept them for almost a month in the vain (how stupid of me) hope that someone, anyone from Social Work Department would ask to see either Lily or the clothes bag, but no it never happened.

Lily later started to divulge in depth exactly how she had been treated by Allana Bruce, she told us that she would be made to sit in soiled bedding whenever she wet the bed, how she would be ‘locked’ in her room for hours on end with no toys, how Allana Bruce and Jay McKay would leave the house and go out for the day leaving her alone and afraid, how she and 2 year old Archie would be made to pick up dog faeces with their bare hands and how Allana Bruce would shout at her so loudly’ it would burst your eardrums’.

Lily also told us about all of the times when she asked if she could phone her mum, only to be told that she wasn’t allowed to and she was not allowed to call her mum either she had to mention her by name only, she also went on to say that Allana has told Archie that she is his ‘real mummy’, a lie that will eventually catch Allana Bruce out, but I suppose when you move in with someone who’s been for the ‘snip’ you need to find ways to steal another woman’s child!

Yet when reported to Social Workers in both Perth and Blairgowrie nothing was done and no one could care less.

This is how we come to have DEAD CHILDREN in this Country. Yet they do not care.

Lily still has nightmares about being returned to the care of Jay McKay and Allana Bruce, she thinks it’s something she’s done like wetting the bed and that’s why they didn’t ‘love or like’ her, she was constantly told that she was not Jay McKay’s biological daughter, yet his name is on the Birth Certificate and he has informed the department who have now taken over the CSA that ‘yes she is his daughter’ and he is currently paying £6 per week from his benefits in Child Support.

Jay McKay and Allana Bruce have consistently lied to all and sundry, they have managed to get away with it for so long that they now think they are invincible.

However you will see when we reach the part of the story about how they both had me arrested and charged with ‘Stalking and putting them in Fear for their Lives’ just how much of their lives are made up of LIES, more LIES and even more LIES.

The upside of this is that Lily has now been reunited with her older sister Caitlin and she continues to have an excellent loving relationship with her mum, her new baby sister and her new step sister, and of course we get to see her on a regular basis, she is a delightful and loving child who only ever wishes to see the good in grown ups, thank goodness we will have time to try to undo all the negative and hateful, spiteful things that have happened to her. She does of course miss her wee brother Archie and her big brother Josh, but she’s beginning to understand that there is a real possibility that she’ll never get to see them again unless they come looking for her.

May 17th 2013 letter from PKC IN RESPONSE TO FIRST LETTER OF COMPLAINT

17th May 2013 EMAILED RESPONSE TO PKC email

17th May 2013 2nd email to pkc

24th May Nancy Helm day before supposed contact for Jill with kids

24th May 2013 email to Mediation Scotland

24th May 2013 The letter fro Nancy Helm re no visits to kids

30th may 2013 page 1 of PKC letter

30th May 2013 Page 2 of PKC Letter

30th may 2013 page 3 of PKC letter

30th May 2013 email to mediation scotland page 1

30th May 2013 email to mediation scotland page 2

17th June 2013 Nancy Helm PKC Email page 1

17th June 2013 Mediation Scotland emails page 1

18th June 2013 nancy helm PKC Emails page 2

20th June 2013 mediation scotland Bill Muir response

20th June 2013 email to mediation scotland page 2

20th June 2013 email to mediation scotland page 3

June 20th 2013 email to lawyer

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes PKC SW page 1

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 2

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 3

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 4

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 5

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 6

3rd July 2013 Meeting Minutes at PKC SW page 7

4th July 2013 alison irvine cop out letter page 1

4th July 2013 alison irvine cop out letter page 2

4th July 2013 alison irvine cop out letter page 3

15th July 2013 letter to alison irvine re her 4th july letter page 1

15th July 2013 letter to alison irvine re her 4th july letter page 2

15th July 2013 letter to alison irvine re her 4th july letter page 3

15th July 2013 letter to alison irvine re her 4th july letter page 4

24th July 2013 letter from alison irvine UN Conventions para page 1

24th July 2013 letter from alison irvine UN Conventions para page 2

24th July 2013 letter from alison irvine UN Conventions para page 3

24th July 2013 letter from alison irvine UN Conventions para page 4

26th August 2013 letter from alison irvine page 1

26th August 2013 letter from alison irvine page 2

4 thoughts on “Dateline of Emails and Letters to and from Perth and Kinross Social Work Dept

  1. Having dealt with social workers before i know that they are generally not very good at their jobs because they have to many cases to deal with so everyone suffers , especially the children .
    Good luck on your quest ,you’re going to need it

  2. I know Jill and her family very well & know of the horrendous situation they have been put in & also about everything that happened to lily while in allana & jays care. I also have had many dealings with the social work department & can confirm that they are in no way interested in the kids that are in “real danger”. The way they deal with complaints, enquiries, child protection cases, families with parents who suffer depression & many other issues is diabolical. They judge people on how much money they have, how many family members they have, how easily they can control them amongst other things. Instead of actually giving them the proper help they need to stay together as a family. I myself was told that ” if I had any issues, to deal with them out with ” and I also recorded one social worker telling me “if you get your child back then I’ll walk out my job” Even though I had made all necessary changes to my lifestyle, dealt with my post natal depression (which was their initial reason for removing him) and made sure I had all the support in place that I needed. Nothing was good enough for them, they had written me off from the start & used the fact that I had been a child in care all my life against me. They said I was “a product of the system” which supposedly meant I would bring my child up the way I was “dragged up” in the care system. Their words!! Each time i done too well in their eyes, they changed the goal posts. I am now in a situation where my son is in permanent foster care & they are trying to rush through an adoption. Things need to change not just within Perth & Kinross but social work departments throughout the country. They use the same jargon for every case, when even they say themselves that every case is different. They get away with murder & actually seem to have more say than the police in most cases. The power is too much for a lot of them & it seems to go to their head. How many other lives are they going to be allowed to ruin before they are held accountable for their actions? There are far too many kids out there that need proper help but they are slipping through the net because social work are focusing on the wrong ones.

  3. To One and All, having inside knowledge of the working of departments such as this, from very close quarters, I wish you all the luck in the world in what will most likely be an up hill battle. Stay Strong. I am glad lily is making good progress, it’s a miracle she has still the power to see good in others. That will be a reflection on her family near and far too. I really hope you all get to see the boys soon. I know how much hurt this has caused you Linda, can’t imagine how Jill must feel either.

    Hopefully Mr McKay and Miss Bruce will get their comuppance sooner rather than latter x

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